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Post by Born2BBruin on Jul 30, 2020 6:58:49 GMT -8
Three or six months, even a year. Link: Trump floats delaying 2020 election Trump and Pence are 100% out of office in January if there's no election. Pelosi becomes POTUS. Fires Barr. Instructs DOJ to prosecute trump for obstruction of justice and any other provable crimes. Instructs the IRS to release trump's tax returns to any legitimate request. |
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Post by hasben on Jul 30, 2020 8:18:11 GMT -8
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Post by dsc on Jul 31, 2020 10:21:15 GMT -8
Here is a frightening scenario laid out by Seth Abramson. This is a quick summary of the twitter thread of how Trump can delegitimize the elections. I say elections (plural) because this would delegitmize not just his election, but all of Congressional races as well.
- By Oct 31, Covid19 is raging out of control.
- Trump, using an OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo drafted by a John Yoo declaring the coming elections null and void due to the covid19 crisis.
- He urges his supporters to stay home.
- Without Trump supporters, Biden wins almost all states, and Democrats win almost all Congressional races
- The outcomes resemble North Korea's elections.
- Now Congressional Republicans are onboard with Trump.
- Republican states refuse to certify the elections
- Biden fails to get the needed 270 electoral votes
Then what? Will the Supreme Court rule in favor of Biden? Will Biden even want to be sworn in under these circumstances? Will he be inclined to negotiate with Trump in favor of a do-over.
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Post by Born2BBruin on Jul 31, 2020 10:42:29 GMT -8
Here is a frightening scenario laid out by Seth Abramson. This is a quick summary of the twitter thread of how Trump can delegitimize the elections. I say elections (plural) because this would delegitmize not just his election, but all of Congressional races as well. - By Oct 31, Covid19 is raging out of control. - Trump, using an OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo drafted by a John Yoo declaring the coming elections null and void due to the covid19 crisis. - He urges his supporters to stay home. - Without Trump supporters, Biden wins almost all states, and Democrats win almost all Congressional races - The outcomes resemble North Korea's elections. - Now Congressional Republicans are onboard with Trump. - Republican states refuse to certify the elections - Biden fails to get the needed 270 electoral votes Then what? Will the Supreme Court rule in favor of Biden? Will Biden even want to be sworn in under these circumstances? Will he be inclined to negotiate with Trump in favor of a do-over. All Democrats should PRAY for this to happen. Because then what happens is the Democrats control the House and Senate with overwhelming majorities. And IF or when Joe Biden cannot secure 270 votes in the Electoral College, the House, with Democrats in control of a majority of state delegations, easily elects Biden as President. There is nothing for the Supreme Court to rule on because the entire process is clearly laid out in the Constitution. |
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Post by dsc on Jul 31, 2020 10:52:20 GMT -8
All Democrats should PRAY for this to happen. Because then what happens is the Democrats control the House and Senate with overwhelming majorities. And IF or when Joe Biden cannot secure 270 votes in the Electoral College, the House, with Democrats in control of a majority of state delegations, easily elects Biden as President. There is nothing for the Supreme Court to rule on because the entire process is clearly laid out in the Constitution. Does the newly seated House get to vote on this? IF so, what if there is no newly seated House because Republican states refuse to certify not just the presidential election, but Congressional elections as well. |
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Post by Born2BBruin on Jul 31, 2020 11:23:42 GMT -8
Does the newly seated House get to vote on this? IF so, what if there is no newly seated House because Republican states refuse to certify not just the presidential election, but Congressional elections as well. Yes, the newly seated Congress oversees the counting of the EC votes. IF no presidential candidate has a majority of the votes of all electors appointed, then the House votes immediately, choosing only from the top three candidates receiving votes from the EC, with each state having one vote. Crucially, certification of ballots and elections does not apply to seating Representatives and Senators. Per the Constitution, the House and the Senate make their own rules. BUT, if there were no Representatives in attendance from certain Republican controlled states, then that state just wouldn't get to vote. |
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Post by Born2BBruin on Jul 31, 2020 11:29:36 GMT -8
Also, states don't certify elections. The electors sign and certify their own voting record, and transmit their votes directly to the President of the Senate.
The only thing a state official could presumably do is refuse to let electors meet and vote in the first place, which is fine, because it still throws the election to Biden.
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Post by dsc on Jul 31, 2020 21:21:27 GMT -8
If the poll numbers were still in the toilet in October and no amount of voter suppression could save you, what would you do for a hail Mary? The scenario above seems quite plausible. Remember, the NY state is licking their chops.
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Post by Born2BBruin on Jul 31, 2020 21:38:09 GMT -8
If the poll numbers were still in the toilet in October and no amount of voter suppression could save you, what would you do for a hail Mary? The scenario above seems quite plausible. Remember, the NY state is licking their chops. Stop trolling me. You are not that stupid. |
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Post by bruinfan13 on Jul 31, 2020 22:02:11 GMT -8
Here is a frightening scenario laid out by Seth Abramson. This is a quick summary of the twitter thread of how Trump can delegitimize the elections. I say elections (plural) because this would delegitmize not just his election, but all of Congressional races as well. - By Oct 31, Covid19 is raging out of control. - Trump, using an OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memo drafted by a John Yoo declaring the coming elections null and void due to the covid19 crisis. - He urges his supporters to stay home. - Without Trump supporters, Biden wins almost all states, and Democrats win almost all Congressional races - The outcomes resemble North Korea's elections. - Now Congressional Republicans are onboard with Trump. - Republican states refuse to certify the elections - Biden fails to get the needed 270 electoral votes Then what? Will the Supreme Court rule in favor of Biden? Will Biden even want to be sworn in under these circumstances? Will he be inclined to negotiate with Trump in favor of a do-over. All Democrats should PRAY for this to happen. Because then what happens is the Democrats control the House and Senate with overwhelming majorities. And IF or when Joe Biden cannot secure 270 votes in the Electoral College, the House, with Democrats in control of a majority of state delegations, easily elects Biden as President. There is nothing for the Supreme Court to rule on because the entire process is clearly laid out in the Constitution. Agree 100% Just try it Trump. Beyond Fired up and SKY HIGH. Animate me at your peril |
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Post by dsc on Jul 31, 2020 22:10:07 GMT -8
If the poll numbers were still in the toilet in October and no amount of voter suppression could save you, what would you do for a hail Mary? The scenario above seems quite plausible. Remember, the NY state is licking their chops. Stop trolling me. You are not that stupid. Wanna bet? 😂😂😂. I don't disagree with any of your answers above. But there is going to be a hail Mary of some kind. What is it going it be? I will ask his boss Putin directly. |
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