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Post by mhbruin on Jul 10, 2020 7:48:23 GMT -8
Despite reported surges of COVID-19 infections and the threat of contracting the virus still high in the U.S., many businesses are resuming operation under the guise of normalcy. Nationwide, some individuals are ignoring pleas from experts to continue social distancing and are instead resuming everyday activities as if the virus no longer exists. As children across the country begin attending summer camps, fear of spreading the COVID-19 virus is being dismissed as all but a hoax. Nevertheless, a summer camp in Missouri shut down last week following a coronavirus outbreak in which more than 40 children and staffers tested positive for the coronavirus, health officials said. Within days after the children returned home to 10 different states, the number increased to 82. The summer camp belongs to a network of Christian sports camps in Missouri, known as the Kanakuk Kamps. After announcing its plans to open starting May 30, the camp network issued a statement on its website assuring parents that camps “are focused on taking all reasonable measures to prevent the spread of COVID-19 in our Kamps." Despite the concern that should be associated with infecting such a large group of children and staff from across the country, the camp network has not mentioned the outbreak on any of its social media channels and continues to share pictures of campers participating in activities. Full story |
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Post by Born2BBruin on Jul 10, 2020 11:46:16 GMT -8
My daughter is a kindergarten teacher in San Jose. The last I heard, her school plans to open next month, with students split into two groups, alternating classroom time every other week. My daughter specifically teaches STEM (yes, to kindergarteners!) so she would be working with 20 to 30 kids a day, and maybe 40 to 60 different kids over the course of two weeks. I expect we'll still let her visit. She's probably less of a risk than our son, whose new girlfriend lives in a house with four roommates, coming in and out all the time, and who know what they're doing, or with whom, when they're out. Plus, my wife is treating at least one COVID patient every night she goes into work, and they called her in for overtime last night due to the case load. Basically, I'm screwed. I'll be lucky to live long enough to see Biden sworn in.  |
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Post by mhbruin on Jul 10, 2020 12:05:22 GMT -8
I saw this today.
"I wear a mask, so I can survive until November 3rd."
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Post by bruinfan13 on Jul 10, 2020 12:56:29 GMT -8
My daughter is a kindergarten teacher in San Jose. The last I heard, her school plans to open next month, with students split into two groups, alternating classroom time every other week. My daughter specifically teaches STEM (yes, to kindergarteners!) so she would be working with 20 to 30 kids a day, and maybe 40 to 60 different kids over the course of two weeks. I expect we'll still let her visit. She's probably less of a risk than our son, whose new girlfriend lives in a house with four roommates, coming in and out all the time, and who know what they're doing, or with whom, when they're out. Plus, my wife is treating at least one COVID patient every night she goes into work, and they called her in for overtime last night due to the case load. Basically, I'm screwed. I'll be lucky to live long enough to see Biden sworn in. Stay safe man, all props to your Wife. Seems like we all know somebody now. I have a Niece recovering and my Grand Daughter is positive and quarantine now for a week. One of my grandsons live with me and they have had positive at his work, but he gets tested once a week per guide lines. We have to make it to a Vaccine of some form or this is going to linger for years world wide. |
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Post by hasben on Jul 10, 2020 14:30:11 GMT -8
My daughter is a kindergarten teacher in San Jose. The last I heard, her school plans to open next month, with students split into two groups, alternating classroom time every other week. My daughter specifically teaches STEM (yes, to kindergarteners!) so she would be working with 20 to 30 kids a day, and maybe 40 to 60 different kids over the course of two weeks. I expect we'll still let her visit. She's probably less of a risk than our son, whose new girlfriend lives in a house with four roommates, coming in and out all the time, and who know what they're doing, or with whom, when they're out. Plus, my wife is treating at least one COVID patient every night she goes into work, and they called her in for overtime last night due to the case load. Basically, I'm screwed. I'll be lucky to live long enough to see Biden sworn in. Man, that's tough. Your kids are at really high risk. I think I'd take a time out from them. I know that's a terrible solution but if it's a matter of your life or death? They should be concerned about you and themselves. Hopefully your wife has plenty of PPE and will stay safe. Be as careful as you can. |
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Post by mhbruin on Jul 10, 2020 15:59:15 GMT -8
I think a lot of teachers unions will be torn between safety and wanting to go back to work.
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Post by Born2BBruin on Jul 10, 2020 17:04:59 GMT -8
I think a lot of teachers unions will be torn between safety and wanting to go back to work. For teachers, it's more an issue that they know online learning has serious limitations, and some kids have already lost 3 months of learning. The good thing is, the ones who show up this year really love teaching; the ones who were just in it for the money have mostly already quit. |
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Post by DrJ on Jul 10, 2020 20:03:49 GMT -8
One of my former partners got COVID. Her toddler was infected at pre-school, in Florida of course.
The child was asymptomatic. She was very sick -- like a very, very severe flu -- for weeks. Thankfully no breathing problems, no hospitalization. She's recovered now, except she has no sense of taste or smell. And may never have.
A very real risk with schools is they are a vector. Anyone who knows anything about human children knows that schools are a major way colds and other viruses are spread. And with small kids it is almost impossible to stop.
Sure, most kids are not severely infected, but we don't have Lord of the Flies schools or families. There are adults in the rooms, just not in the Oval one.
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Post by blublood on Jul 10, 2020 22:15:40 GMT -8
I can see a new fast food chain starting for recovering COVID patients: Tastes bad and smells awful, but you'll never know. Awesome texture, though!
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Post by DrJ on Jul 11, 2020 9:29:30 GMT -8
Article in San Antonio paper down column ER doc refers to a case in which a young child "infected both parents -- both parents dead." www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Tsunami-of-COVID-cases-crushing-Hidalgo-15398472.phpThat is what opening up schools during a pandemic will bring. Anyone here think Javanka or Dummy Jr.'s kids will be attending classes, unless their schools require every kid to be tested and engage incredible precautions most schools could never achieve? Trump is perfectly fine with any of the handful of people to whom he attaches some value dying if he thinks it will profit him personally. |
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Post by grant73 on Jul 11, 2020 11:28:33 GMT -8
-- "I expect we'll still let her visit. She's probably less of a risk than our son, whose new girlfriend lives in a house with four roommates, ..." --
The 30 to 60 kindergartners can not be stopped from rubbing their noses and touching other kids and keeping their masks properly positioned or even on. To teacher short of an octopus can possibly teach WHILE policing the touching and unmasking.
My point is the kids themselves will all be taking the germs home to their parents, siblings and grandparents. It is an impossible situation. It is dangerous enough with older students. If I were a no-working parent I wouldn't send my kindergartner to that school at all. "Oh the humanity, one year of kindergarten missed!!" Otoh, STEM at that age is otherwise a wonderful thing!
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Post by mhbruin on Jul 11, 2020 14:01:50 GMT -8
There is evidence that young kids don't tend to spread COVID. This is different from the flu. I think it is kids under 7.
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Post by grant73 on Jul 11, 2020 17:51:36 GMT -8
If a kid is infected, even asymptomatic, the virus is in his mucous and sinuses. If he goes home and his dirty fingers touch something, what "evidence" says that the virus mysteriously disappears and is not contagious. The only way that evidence could work is if the body says, "poof, you virus units are now powerless as a contagion, you've been transformed by a little kid."
If I were a teacher and my Mayor or Supt. of Schools recommends my school not open, I am not going. I don't know, and am only arguing rhetorically here, mh.
And articles have conjectured that "many" teachers (some unspecified cross-section) of teachers are planning to risk their job-future by not teaching this fall, *regardless* of their school's decision to open all the way. And I have heard that in re substitute teachers, this is a bigger percentage.
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Post by DrJ on Jul 11, 2020 18:29:00 GMT -8
If a kid is infected, even asymptomatic, the virus is in his mucous and sinuses. If he goes home and his dirty fingers touch something, what "evidence" says that the virus mysteriously disappears and is not contagious. The only way that evidence could work is if the body says, "poof, you virus units are now powerless as a contagion, you've been transformed by a little kid." If I were a teacher and my Mayor or Supt. of Schools recommends my school not open, I am not going. I don't know, and am only arguing rhetorically here, mh. And articles have conjectured that "many" teachers (some unspecified cross-section) of teachers are planning to risk their job-future by not teaching this fall, *regardless* of their school's decision to open all the way. And I have heard that in re substitute teachers, this is a bigger percentage. Exactly. Even if the virus doesn't sicken the other kids it can infect them and they become spreaders. Like the parents in Texas who were infected by their kid and died. |
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