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Post by mhbruin on Jul 9, 2020 16:55:42 GMT -8
From a partisan perspective: >Monday was horrendous. Yesterday was more horrendous. Today will be worse. COVID-19 cases aren’t just shooting up in dozens of states, they’re particularly soaring in states where there is absolutely no plan to halt, or even slow, the outbreaks. The poster child for awful is, of course, the state that Donald Trump has spent the most time slathering in praise. “Look at what’s going on in Florida,” said Trump. “It’s incredible. If you look at so many different places that have opened up ... the ones that are most energetic about opening they are doing tremendous business.” To be fair, that was last month. To be more fair, on the day Trump made that claim, Florida had just set a record for its highest day ever—but that record was barely a tenth of what it ran up yesterday. >Trump’s partner in destroying the Sunshine State, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, was still out there bragging about the state’s “low death rate” just two days ago. That was also when DeSantis said that COVID-19 had “stabilized” in Florida. Right before reporting a new record. Then breaking that record. Then on Thursday, Florida smashed its previous record by recording 120 deaths in a single day even though the state’s average age of new COVID-19 patients is only 21. Which makes Florida a prime candidate for Dr. Anthony Fauci’s latest recommendation: States like Florida should shut down. ?The cover-up of information in Florida has gotten so bad that the sheriff of the county that includes Daytona beach was forced to sue DeSantis just to get information for his own area. DeSantis has issued a “statewide directive” against sharing data with the city and county officials who have to deal directly with deaths, illness, and a lack of support from the state. Source
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Post by dsc on Jul 9, 2020 16:58:15 GMT -8
DeSantis is Trump's Minister of Information.
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Post by hasben on Jul 9, 2020 17:12:43 GMT -8
FL is full of rump lovers, stupid and irresponsible people. But I repeat myself. The big problem in FL and CA and TX and AZ and... is young people who don't know or don't care about risk to themselves or others. And no one is doing anything about that. All of their social media platforms should be flooded with info that they can't avoid seeing. But unless it makes money no platform owners will do that. Greed always rules and now it kills.
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Post by mhbruin on Jul 9, 2020 17:52:16 GMT -8
Even with the bogus numbers from some states, we are getting back to 1,000 dead per day.
And the young people are being encouraged and enabled by some of their elders.
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Post by Born2BBruin on Jul 9, 2020 18:00:02 GMT -8
The big problem... is young people who don't know or don't care about risk to themselves or others. Young people are the most likely to have jobs that require them to interact with people, like in bars, restaurants, or retail; and the least likely to be able to just stay home. There are certainly a lot of them acting like they're invincible, but there are also an awful lot of them who just don't have a choice.
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Post by spartacus on Jul 9, 2020 18:14:40 GMT -8
and yet the want to open disneyworld. what could go wrong? de santis withholding the numbers during the pandemic ought to be a criminal offense. what a fucking piece of shit. bastard should be in prison. and yet brainless deplorables are ok with it. it boggles the mind.
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Post by hasben on Jul 9, 2020 22:08:38 GMT -8
The big problem... is young people who don't know or don't care about risk to themselves or others. Young people are the most likely to have jobs that require them to interact with people, like in bars, restaurants, or retail; and the least likely to be able to just stay home. There are certainly a lot of them acting like they're invincible, but there are also an awful lot of them who just don't have a choice. They do have a choice though maybe not easy ones. And if they do choose to work in a public environment they can certainly wear masks and practice safe protocols. The ones I was really talking about are the tens of thousands packing the bars, beaches, parties etc exercising no protection at all.
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Post by mhbruin on Jul 10, 2020 6:58:56 GMT -8
Then there is Alabama: >>Alabama on Wednesday recorded its highest-ever tally of new cases ― more than 1,800, according to the state’s Department of Public Health:" “In fact, quite honestly, I want to see more people, because we start reaching an immunity as more people have it and get through it,” Alabama state Sen. Del Marsh told reporters Thursday. “I don’t want any deaths — as few as possible,” he continued. “So those people who are susceptible to the disease, especially those with preexisting conditions, elderly population, those folks, we need to do all we can to protect them. But I’m not concerned. I want to make sure that everybody can receive care. And right now we have, to my knowledge as of today, we still have ample beds.”“In fact, quite honestly, I want to see more people, because we start reaching an immunity as more people have it and get through it,” Alabama state Sen. Del Marsh told reporters Thursday. “I don’t want any deaths — as few as possible,” he continued. “So those people who are susceptible to the disease, especially those with preexisting conditions, elderly population, those folks, we need to do all we can to protect them. But I’m not concerned. I want to make sure that everybody can receive care. And right now we have, to my knowledge as of today, we still have ample beds.” Marsh sits on the state’s coronavirus task force. The rest of the page explains all that is wrong with this viewAnother failure of science education. Ignorance kills.
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Post by mhbruin on Jul 10, 2020 7:03:06 GMT -8
Then there is the ignoramus-in-chief:
"For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!"
Failure in science AND math.
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Post by hasben on Jul 10, 2020 7:15:24 GMT -8
Then there is the ignoramus-in-chief: "For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!" Failure in science AND math. I wouldn't call that a failure in science and math. That is gross incompetence, corruption, and ignorance. The congressmen you quoted are he same. Most older people are scared to death. The only big failures in science and math (really media not science) is communicating those results to young people.
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Post by DrJ on Jul 10, 2020 20:19:04 GMT -8
DeSantis dumped numbers late Friday: there are 7,000 currently hospitalized COVID patients. That is 3.4% of the active reported cases.
I have a friend who represents nurses - they are telling him that ad hoc ICU are being improvised to handle cases. They lack negative pressure, and some of the safeguards but no choice. And the state is hiding deaths - a phenomenal spike in unseasonal pneumonia deaths.
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