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Post by mhbruin on Jul 5, 2020 9:12:48 GMT -8
Poll of the week: A new Monmouth University poll finds former Vice President Joe Biden with a 53% to 41% lead over President Donald Trump. The average live interview poll conducted over the last month has Biden ahead by a similar 11-point margin. What's the point: Usually, this is the point where someone like myself says we have four months to go until the election and polls are a snapshot in time. Both of those statements are true, but they obscure an important fact. Polls taken around Independence Day in an election year are actually pretty highly correlated with the November results in incumbent contests. That means Trump is in a lot of trouble. Take a look at the 13 incumbent elections dating all the way back to 1940. Usually going all the way back in time will lead you to find a lot of volatile campaigns, as more modern ones tend to be more steady. Yet, since 1940, the final result differs from the polls at this point by an average of just 7 points. The median difference is only about 4.5 points. Full story===================== I would caution that a mean and median, without an idea of the variance isn't usually helpful. He goes on to discuss that. And this has been the most stable race in the history of polling.
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Post by northbruin40 on Jul 5, 2020 10:21:13 GMT -8
Thanks for posting that. It inspired me to go on 538 and think more about poll ratings If we just look at the polls rated A-, A or A+ over the last 2 months:
A- or A or A+ polls Monmouth June 26-30 +12 733RV average of last 7 11.29 Suffolk U June 25-29 +9 1000RV Suffolk U June 25-29 +12 1000RV Marist June 22-24 +12 1515RV CNBC/Hart June 19-22 +9 800RV Siena/NYT June 17-22 +13 1337RV Fox June 13-16 +12 1343RV NBC/WSJ May 28-June 2 +7 1000RV average up to June 2 8.22 Marist June 2-3 +7 958RV Emerson June 2-3 +5 1431RV Monmouth May 28-June 1 +11 742RV ABC/WP May 25-28 +5 720LV ABC/WP May 25-28 +10 835RV ABC/WP May 25-28 +13 1001A Fox May 17-20 +8 1207RV Monmouth April 30-May 4 +8 739 RV
might add strange A/B rating ?IBD/TIPP June 27-30 +8 1005RV ?IBD/TIPP May 31-June 3 +3 984RV
High-quality polls over the middle and latter half of June were actually quite consistent. It looks like there was about a 3% jump from May to recent. I might look tomorrow to see if the "B" polls show a smaller margin - I suspect they do. Nearly all the A-polls are of registered voters (RV). Perhaps it's too soon to try to gauge likely voters (LV)? The ABC/WP poll suggests there could be clear advantage to Trump in LV vs. RV, and over registered voters to adults (A).
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