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Post by sagobob on Jun 26, 2020 8:42:48 GMT -8
Also called "Suck it Up and Get Through It". It seems we've entered a phase in some parts of the country where new case counts and hospitalizations are increasing, with more younger people testing positive or presenting symptoms. The question then becomes, will this result in more deaths down the road, or will younger people recover with no or fewer complications?
If people want to gather in ways known to accelerate transmission, and not wear masks, then the spread is on them and unfortunately may spill over to those of us who understand the continuing need to socially isolate and wear masks. While they may be done with COVID-19, COVID-19 is not done with them (and the rest of us).
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Post by mhbruin on Jun 26, 2020 9:11:01 GMT -8
You left out option 3. Those young people may not die, but they can get very sick. Hospitalizations are up, and young people are ending up in the hospital. An inreasing number of ICU beds hold young people.
Also, obesity is a risk factor, There are plenty of obese young people.
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Post by mhbruin on Jun 26, 2020 9:13:38 GMT -8
When looking at patients who had survived a critical encounter with COVID-19, a team of British researchers found that almost two-thirds suffered strokes, and just over a quarter were left with damage resulting in dementia. Study from Lancet |
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Post by mhbruin on Jun 26, 2020 11:24:17 GMT -8
Then there will be economic collapse pase 2. The Federal extra unemployment money end July 31. More big companies are closing stores permanently. People are more afraid of COVID.
There will be some good economic news, but a lot of bad news.
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Post by sagobob on Jun 26, 2020 11:33:44 GMT -8
You left out option 3. Those young people may not die, but they can get very sick. Hospitalizations are up, and young people are ending up in the hospital. An inreasing number of ICU beds hold young people. Also, obesity is a risk factor, There are plenty of obese young people. A perception of invincibility can be a death sentence. If they choose to ignore what they should be doing, then the outcome is all on them. The old meme that "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it" applies here. We know what COVID-19 can do to senior citizens and other vulnerable people. Are we now going to find out the degree to which it will affect the younger and healthier among us? |
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Post by hasben on Jun 26, 2020 17:08:56 GMT -8
When looking at patients who had survived a critical encounter with COVID-19, a team of British researchers found that almost two-thirds suffered strokes, and just over a quarter were left with damage resulting in dementia. Study from LancetThe median age in that study was 71. Shocking results for the senior group. Since the younger group is doing most of the spreading the news needs to focus on their health consequences with covid. Some have just started doing that. Many of them will still consider themselves invincible but we've got to get some of their attention. |
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Post by bruingray on Jun 27, 2020 15:45:18 GMT -8
I've been away a while. Oddly too busy or too discombobulated health wise (not COVID-19) to have the energy.
But this is a tough one because a public health crisis has become political thanks to the "leadership" of this country. Not wearing a mask, to the troglodytes who pay homage to these folks is the mark of a truly independent American, as they emphasize that there is both an "I" and a "me" in America, no "us", forgetting the "with liberty and justice for ALL" part of our heritage. And too many young people are just cavalier and frankly ignorant, not caring that their actions aren't just exposing themselves, but everyone with whom they come in contact, especially highly at risk groups such as those with preexisting conditions of any age, and the elderly. Meaning their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc.
My wife and I just turned 72. That means that, as we have sense and a belief in our civic responsibilities, we will self-quarantine until there is a decent vaccine, and if not, indefinitely. Whatever the privations involved. They aren't so bad for us; I was stricken with an ailment 18 years ago last month that basically debilitated me so much I pretty much stayed at home, and my wife did except for essential things as well. But I had been venturing out a bit before the pandemic, mainly to church every Sunday and to various church study groups, plus the occasional grocery or haircut run. All gone now.
But how many of us will do the right thing? Meaning those exposed staying away from the vulnerable, and the vulnerable having the sense to remain sheltered in place? I guess we'll find out. Personally, I think we face a Hobson's choice--let the world economy die, or let a goodly number of us, mainly we older folk, die. That is hardly the end. The evidence suggests so far that, as noted above in part, younger people who get COVID-19 face the prospect of permanent damage to any number of organs in the body that will cause problems for them later in life, some quite severe. So they are delusional in brushing it off as no big thing. Which means we will face a very different world, where life is harder, meaner, more isolated. And that's not even addressing the racial reckoning with which are dealing now as well.
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Post by mhbruin on Jun 27, 2020 16:09:10 GMT -8
Welcome back.
>>Personally, I think we face a Hobson's choice--let the world economy die, or let a goodly number of us, mainly we older folk, die.
Unfortunately, I don't think that is the policy choice we face. As Sweden has seen, even if you leave the economy open, it still shrinks. Folks like us aren't going out and spending money, no matter how many businesses open. And lots of folks don't have any money to spend.
Effective policy and universal mask wearing could knock this down, and then we could return to normal. Other than that, I think we face recession whether we stay open, shut down, or anything in between.
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