Post by mhbruin on Oct 10, 2023 12:04:07 GMT -8
If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the "terminal"?
I Was Wrong
I still think the way Israel treats the Palestineans is horrible. Conditions in the Gaza Strip are despicable.
I strongly dislike the current Israeli government. Bigot have way too much influence. They are moing away from democracy. Netenyaho is a terrible person and leader.
In general, I think the Palestineans have a lot of real greviences with the Israeli government.
HOWEVER, ...
The more I learn about what is happending, the more I realize that the tactics being used by Hamas are inhuman and indefensible. As much as I want to see Israel pay a price for their treatment of Palestineans, this is the wrong price. This is the wrong way to go about it.
It is the wrong way to do it tactically, and the wrong way to do it morally.
I don't know what is the right approach for the Palestineans to get treated humanely, but this isn't it.
I have been far too supportive of Hamas, because I understand the rage and frustration. But to the extent I have been at all supportive of this action, I was wrong.
I Can't Ignore This
In the last 36 hours, we’ve seen the body of a murdered woman dragged naked through the streets of Gaza. Toddlers grabbed by armed men and hustled away from their parents. More than 200 unarmed young people from around the world shot dead as they danced together on a desert night.
As news of these and other atrocities from Hamas’s terrorist attacks flooded in, some on the left — even on the Jewish left — responded in a knee-jerk, predictable and utterly wrongheaded way. They blamed Israel and America, and let Hamas off the hook.
Israel is fascist? If you say so. But how would you characterize a regime that, according to Human Rights Watch, cancels elections, beats, jails, tortures and kills political opponents, controls the media and tortures journalists, hoards resources to enrich its leaders and stoke its population’s rage, and embraces only violent resistance?
It isn’t me, or pro-Bibi Jewish propagandists, leveling these charges. These are the findings of international human rights groups and the voices of Gazans themselves.
That Doesn't Let Netanyahu Off the Hook For Past or Future Actions
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” the prime minister reportedly said at a 2019 meeting of his Likud party. “This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
These exact comments have not yet been confirmed by other sources. But the Times of Israel’s Tal Schneider wrote on Sunday that Netanyahu’s reported words “are in line with the policy that he implemented,” which did little to challenge and in some ways bolstered Hamas’s control over the Gaza Strip. Moreover, Schneider notes, “the same messaging was repeated by right-wing commentators, who may have received briefings on the matter or talked to Likud higher-ups and understood the message.” Some Netanyahu confidants have said the same thing, as have outside experts.
Benjamin Netanyahu failed Israel
I Was Wrong
I still think the way Israel treats the Palestineans is horrible. Conditions in the Gaza Strip are despicable.
I strongly dislike the current Israeli government. Bigot have way too much influence. They are moing away from democracy. Netenyaho is a terrible person and leader.
In general, I think the Palestineans have a lot of real greviences with the Israeli government.
HOWEVER, ...
The more I learn about what is happending, the more I realize that the tactics being used by Hamas are inhuman and indefensible. As much as I want to see Israel pay a price for their treatment of Palestineans, this is the wrong price. This is the wrong way to go about it.
It is the wrong way to do it tactically, and the wrong way to do it morally.
I don't know what is the right approach for the Palestineans to get treated humanely, but this isn't it.
I have been far too supportive of Hamas, because I understand the rage and frustration. But to the extent I have been at all supportive of this action, I was wrong.
I Can't Ignore This
In the last 36 hours, we’ve seen the body of a murdered woman dragged naked through the streets of Gaza. Toddlers grabbed by armed men and hustled away from their parents. More than 200 unarmed young people from around the world shot dead as they danced together on a desert night.
As news of these and other atrocities from Hamas’s terrorist attacks flooded in, some on the left — even on the Jewish left — responded in a knee-jerk, predictable and utterly wrongheaded way. They blamed Israel and America, and let Hamas off the hook.
Israel is fascist? If you say so. But how would you characterize a regime that, according to Human Rights Watch, cancels elections, beats, jails, tortures and kills political opponents, controls the media and tortures journalists, hoards resources to enrich its leaders and stoke its population’s rage, and embraces only violent resistance?
It isn’t me, or pro-Bibi Jewish propagandists, leveling these charges. These are the findings of international human rights groups and the voices of Gazans themselves.
That Doesn't Let Netanyahu Off the Hook For Past or Future Actions
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” the prime minister reportedly said at a 2019 meeting of his Likud party. “This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
These exact comments have not yet been confirmed by other sources. But the Times of Israel’s Tal Schneider wrote on Sunday that Netanyahu’s reported words “are in line with the policy that he implemented,” which did little to challenge and in some ways bolstered Hamas’s control over the Gaza Strip. Moreover, Schneider notes, “the same messaging was repeated by right-wing commentators, who may have received briefings on the matter or talked to Likud higher-ups and understood the message.” Some Netanyahu confidants have said the same thing, as have outside experts.
Benjamin Netanyahu failed Israel