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Post by ucla73 on May 25, 2020 13:14:02 GMT -8
Do you think Bama fans will be able to vote for Tommy Tuberville? After all, football is more important than politics in Alabama. It will be interesting to see the county-by-county results. I'll bet there will be a distinct lack of Tuberville votes around Tuscaloosa.
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Post by dsc on May 25, 2020 13:37:13 GMT -8
Somebody enlighten me here. What is it about these politically active former college coaches? I'm thinking Knight, Tuberville, and Holtz who came out as vocal Trump supporters. These guys' careers relied heavily on African American athletes. Didn't they learn anything from having worked with them? Knight doesn't surprise me, but Holtz does. I don't know enough about Tuberville.
This makes me appreciate men like Wooden and Bear Bryant even more. Even though they both grew up and came of age in deeply conservative states, they were way ahead of their time. Meanwhile in the year 2020, Knight, Holtz, and Tuberville have their heads stuck in the 50's.
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Post by ucla73 on May 25, 2020 13:44:36 GMT -8
Add Dean Smith to your list, along with Wooden and Bryant. He was another coach who was ahead of his time in society.
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Post by dsc on May 25, 2020 14:04:56 GMT -8
Not a coach, but Wesley Branch Rickey who recruited Jackie Robinson. Rickey and Wooden were also deeply religious men.
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Post by northbruin40 on May 25, 2020 14:42:28 GMT -8
Somebody enlighten me here. What is it about these politically active former college coaches? I'm thinking Knight, Tuberville, and Holtz who came out as vocal Trump supporters. These guys' careers relied heavily on African American athletes. Didn't they learn anything from having worked with them? Knight doesn't surprise me, but Holtz does. I don't know enough about Tuberville.... Those coaches (you can add Digger Phelps) posture themselves as standing for "old school" values and seeking to save an old America that's fading. I'm not surprised about Holtz. He presents himself as a huge lover of old Notre Dame. Yet when he took over, it was after "boy scout" Gerry Faust didn't succeed after supposedly representing everything Notre Dame stood for. They relaxed a lot of standards so Holtz could succeed. Predictably, the number of players getting into trouble greatly increased. But when it started getting talked about, the conservative Notre Dame fans denied it by claiming it was "anti-Notre Dame media bias" Also, Holtz represents the Ned Flanders out there who are apologists for Trump. They think they are saving sacred 20th Century values by supporting Trump.
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Post by grant73 on May 25, 2020 17:22:57 GMT -8
I really hated Holtz when he was a commentator on college football. Pompous old fool. Knoght was a win at all costs fire-breathing exArmy man. I don't know if he had any anti-AA utterings; it seems like most of the players and/or public figures Bloomington-conected (or in Wooden's case Martinsville) were actually white. Not that I liked the old chair-tosser. I know notheing at all about Tuberville.
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Post by drbruin on May 25, 2020 18:32:39 GMT -8
Add Tom Osborne to the list of coaches who got into politics. He easily was elected to congress three times, but lost in the Republican gubernatorial primary to the more conservative incumbent.
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Post by dsc on May 25, 2020 19:12:08 GMT -8
I have no problem with coaches and athletes going into Republican politics. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Tom Osborne was a MAGA type of guy. I understand our own Troy Aikman is also into Republican politics, but he does not appear to be at the MAGA end of the spectrum.
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Post by dsc on Jun 15, 2020 20:27:26 GMT -8
Another MAGA coach. This time, it's Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy.
With the CFB season already in trouble, it will be interesting to see how this unfolds.
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Post by TAMPATIDE on Jun 16, 2020 3:03:59 GMT -8
73 I think the vast majority of Bama fans will not vote for Tuberville simply because he was an Auburn coach. He's also being portrayed as an outsider not being Alabama born and raised.
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Post by Floppy Johnson on Jun 16, 2020 5:32:08 GMT -8
I refer to Tuberville as "Tatertown." That is all.
Also, don't forget Holtz' days at Arkansas.
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Post by ucla73 on Jun 16, 2020 6:57:53 GMT -8
73 I think the vast majority of Bama fans will not vote for Tuberville simply because he was an Auburn coach. He's also being portrayed as an outsider not being Alabama born and raised. You're probably right, Tampa. But how many Barners will vote for him just because he was the Auburn coach? It will be interesting to see. Adding to the mix is the fact that Sessions is by far the most qualified candidate, in spite of what Trump may say.
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