Post by mhbruin on Jun 26, 2022 9:25:29 GMT -8
CHANGES
Michael Jones is transferring from Davidson
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Once upon a time, Stanford was good at the two major sports. Back in the days of yore. Those days are gone.
Next are the 9th place Stanford Cardinal. I thought they would be a bubble team. They didn't come close. They did beat USC twice, and they had a nice win over Wyoming. They also lost to Utah and Cal, two of the worst teams in the Pac-12.
In six seasons on the Farm, Jerod Haase's teams have never been to the NCAA tournament. Their best finish in the league was 3rd, which is the only year they finished with a winning record in the Pac-12.
At most schools, Haase wouldn't have been given a 7th season. However, this is Stanford. They pride themselves on not being most schools. They are great at winning in sports that no one follows.
Most of Jarod Haase's teams have been very good defensively. Last season they were not. KenPom ranked them #109 in defensive efficiency. They weren't that great on offense either. In fact they weren't that great at anything. They weren't terrible at anything.
That seems to be Stanford basketball these days. Not great at anything. Not terrible at anything. Expect more of the same. Stanford mediocre. David Shaw and Jarod Hasse. Good enough for Stanford.
GRADUATING
I could have listed Delaire, Kišūnas, and Beskind here, but since they have a fifth year of eligibility, I called them transfers.
IN THE DRAFT OR TURNING PRO
TRANSFERRING OUT
It used to be that no one transferred out of Stanford. Those days are gone. Delaire, Kišūnas, and Beskind were seniors who likely graduated, but Taitz didn't stick around for the Stanford degree. The world is changing.
RETURNING
Note about classes: With the extra year of eligibility, there is no clear way to label players. If a player is in his 4th season, but will have another year of eligibility after this year, I am calling him "Jr 4".
These guys fit the Stanford model. A group of decent players. Not great. Not terrible. I don't think any of them would start for the best teams in the league, but many of them would play.
PG is a bit of a problem. O'Connell is the only one of the team with a decent A/TO ratio, but he isn't a good shooter. Isa Silva shoots the ball pretty well, but he was a turnover machine. If either or both improve, that would help the team a lot.
Raynaud may be 7'1", but he his listed as a forward. He is one of their better 3-point shooters. They may not have a true center.
Max Murrell was a 4-star recruit, but they are still waiting for the proverbial light to come on.
(#69 class, #7 in Pac-12)
Like everything else about Stanford's program it is hard to get too excited about this recruiting class. Two guys about the same size who play the same position, and who are ranked close to each other.
Jones had offers from programs like Alabama and Northwestern. A 42% 3-point shooter is always going to be welcome.
CONCLUSION
Michael Jones is transferring from Davidson
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Once upon a time, Stanford was good at the two major sports. Back in the days of yore. Those days are gone.
Next are the 9th place Stanford Cardinal. I thought they would be a bubble team. They didn't come close. They did beat USC twice, and they had a nice win over Wyoming. They also lost to Utah and Cal, two of the worst teams in the Pac-12.
In six seasons on the Farm, Jerod Haase's teams have never been to the NCAA tournament. Their best finish in the league was 3rd, which is the only year they finished with a winning record in the Pac-12.
At most schools, Haase wouldn't have been given a 7th season. However, this is Stanford. They pride themselves on not being most schools. They are great at winning in sports that no one follows.
Most of Jarod Haase's teams have been very good defensively. Last season they were not. KenPom ranked them #109 in defensive efficiency. They weren't that great on offense either. In fact they weren't that great at anything. They weren't terrible at anything.
That seems to be Stanford basketball these days. Not great at anything. Not terrible at anything. Expect more of the same. Stanford mediocre. David Shaw and Jarod Hasse. Good enough for Stanford.
GRADUATING
| Player | Games | Starts | Minutes | Points | Rebounds | Assists |
| None |
I could have listed Delaire, Kišūnas, and Beskind here, but since they have a fifth year of eligibility, I called them transfers.
IN THE DRAFT OR TURNING PRO
| Player | Games | Starts | Minutes | Points | Rebounds | Assists |
| - None - |
TRANSFERRING OUT
It used to be that no one transferred out of Stanford. Those days are gone. Delaire, Kišūnas, and Beskind were seniors who likely graduated, but Taitz didn't stick around for the Stanford degree. The world is changing.
| Player | Games | Starts | Minutes | Points | Rebounds | Assists | Destination |
| Jaiden Delaire | 32 | 26 | 24 | 10 | 4 | 1 | San Diego |
| Lukas Kišūnas | 29 | 3 | 9 | 2 | 2 | 0 | Denver |
| Noah Taitz | 14 | 0 | 14 | 5 | 2 | 1 | Loyola Marymount |
| Sam Beskind | 28 | 4 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 0 | Colorado School of Mines |
RETURNING
Note about classes: With the extra year of eligibility, there is no clear way to label players. If a player is in his 4th season, but will have another year of eligibility after this year, I am calling him "Jr 4".
| Player | Games | Starts | Minutes | Points | Rebounds | Assists | FG% | 3Pt% | A/TO | Class | Recruiting Stars | Recruiting Rank |
| Harrison Ingram | 32 | 30 | 31 | 11 | 7 | 3 | 39% | 32% | 1.3 | So | 5 | 19 |
| Spencer Jones | 31 | 31 | 27 | 12 | 5 | 1 | 48% | 38% | 0.8 | Jr 4 | 3 | 160 |
| Brandon Angel | 32 | 0 | 20 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 47% | 37% | 0.6 | So 3 | 3 | 216 |
| Michael O'Connell | 31 | 30 | 27 | 7 | 3 | 4 | 38% | 29% | 1.8 | So 3 | Unranked | |
| James Keefe | 30 | 24 | 20 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 60% | 1.0 | Jr 4 | 3 | 339 | |
| Maxime Raynaud | 29 | 5 | 12 | 5 | 4 | 1 | 54% | 42% | 0.7 | So | Unranked | |
| Isa Silva | 32 | 1 | 14 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 40% | 50% | 0.7 | So | 4 | 44 |
| Max Murrell | 32 | 5 | 10 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 30% | 23% | 0.5 | So 3 | 4 | 120 |
These guys fit the Stanford model. A group of decent players. Not great. Not terrible. I don't think any of them would start for the best teams in the league, but many of them would play.
PG is a bit of a problem. O'Connell is the only one of the team with a decent A/TO ratio, but he isn't a good shooter. Isa Silva shoots the ball pretty well, but he was a turnover machine. If either or both improve, that would help the team a lot.
Raynaud may be 7'1", but he his listed as a forward. He is one of their better 3-point shooters. They may not have a true center.
Max Murrell was a 4-star recruit, but they are still waiting for the proverbial light to come on.
RECRUITS
(#69 class, #7 in Pac-12)
| Player | Size | Position | Recruiting Stars | Recruiting Rank | Offers |
| Jaylen Thompson | 6-7 180 | SF | 4 | 113 | Alabama, Arizona State, Creighton |
| Ryan Agarwal | 6-6 175 | SF | 3 | 129 | Columbia, Creighton, Denver, Harvard |
Like everything else about Stanford's program it is hard to get too excited about this recruiting class. Two guys about the same size who play the same position, and who are ranked close to each other.
TRANSFERRING IN
| Player | Size | Games | Starts | Minutes | Points | Rebounds | Assists | FG % | 3-Pt % | From | Class | Recruiting Stars | Recruiting Rank |
| Michael Jones | 6-5 210 | 34 | 34 | 31 | 12 | 4 | 2 | 46% | 42% | Davidson | Jr 4 | Unranked |
Jones had offers from programs like Alabama and Northwestern. A 42% 3-point shooter is always going to be welcome.
CONCLUSION
It is hard to find much to say about this team and their prospects. The Cardinal probably won't be as bad as the worst teams in the league, but they are not likely to get out of the bottom half of the league, either.
I expect a repeat of last season. A couple of surprising wins and a couple of terrible losses, with a lot of mediocrity in between.
Wilner:
6. Stanford (10): The stagnant Cardinal received a rare piece of good news in late May when star forward Harrison Ingram withdrew from the draft. He’ll join Spencer Jones to give Stanford a gifted forward tandem — and a fighting chance to become relevant. There are legitimate questions about the backcourt generally, the 3-point shooting specifically and Stanford’s ability to succeed in the second half of league play. But if Ingram takes his game to the next level, the Cardinal will follow.
Wilner also wrote:
Haase was hired in the spring of 2016 and has yet to take Stanford to the NCAA Tournament.
He’s getting paid to win, and he’s not winning.
That said, Ingram’s return stands as the best personnel news Stanford has received in years. The sophomore forward should be one of the top players in the conference and gives the Cardinal a premium scoring tandem with returning wing Spencer Jones.
But given the history of the Haase era, Stanford fans should take a cautiously optimistic outlook and brace for something to block progress.
I expect a repeat of last season. A couple of surprising wins and a couple of terrible losses, with a lot of mediocrity in between.
Wilner:
6. Stanford (10): The stagnant Cardinal received a rare piece of good news in late May when star forward Harrison Ingram withdrew from the draft. He’ll join Spencer Jones to give Stanford a gifted forward tandem — and a fighting chance to become relevant. There are legitimate questions about the backcourt generally, the 3-point shooting specifically and Stanford’s ability to succeed in the second half of league play. But if Ingram takes his game to the next level, the Cardinal will follow.
Wilner also wrote:
Haase was hired in the spring of 2016 and has yet to take Stanford to the NCAA Tournament.
He’s getting paid to win, and he’s not winning.
That said, Ingram’s return stands as the best personnel news Stanford has received in years. The sophomore forward should be one of the top players in the conference and gives the Cardinal a premium scoring tandem with returning wing Spencer Jones.
But given the history of the Haase era, Stanford fans should take a cautiously optimistic outlook and brace for something to block progress.